Retired Green Beret shoots intruder, gets court martial
Posted by MK on January 29, 2008
BREVARD, Jan. 19, 2008 – Retired Army Green Beret James T. (Smokey) Taylor got his court martial this weekend and came away feeling pretty good about it. Taylor, at age 79, is one of the oldest members of Chapter XXXIII (The Larry Thorne Chapter) of the Special Forces Association.He was placed on trial by fellow Chapter XXXIII members under the charge of “failing to use a weapon of sufficient caliber” in the shooting of an intruder at his home in Knoxville , TN , in November.
The court martial, of course, was very much tongue in cheek. The event itself was deadly serious. Taylor had been awakened in the early morning hours of November 5, 2007,when an intruder broke into his home. He investigated the noises with one of his many weapons in hand. “It was just after Halloween, on Monday morning at 4:30,” Taylor said. I heard this commotion at the door and grabbed my fishing gun, a little .22 revolver, to see what was going on. I got to the front door and this fellow had ripped my security door out of its frame. He said, ‘you’re going to have to kill me. I’m coming in.’”
When a warning to leave went unheeded, Taylor brought his .22 caliber pistol to bear and shot him right between the eyes. “I was about four feet away from him when I shot,” Taylor said. “Looking back now, I’m glad he didn’t die, but that boy had the hardest head I’ve ever seen. The bullet bounced right off.” The impact knocked the would-be thief down momentarily. He crawled out of the house then got up and ran down the street. Taylor dialed 911 and Knoxville police apprehended the wounded man about 200 yards away, hiding in a hedgerow.
Complicating the case, as well as the court martial, the offender was released on bail but failed to appear for his court date. Knoxville police said the man was homeless. They did not know his whereabouts or why he had been given bail. The charges brought against Taylor by his fellow Green Berets were considered to be serious. He is a retired Special Forces Weapons Sergeant with extensive combat experience during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. “Charges were brought against him under the premise that he should have saved the county and taxpayers the expense of a trial,” said Chapter XXXIII President Bill Long of Asheville , NC.
The trial was held at the Hampton Inn in Brevard, part of the group’s regularly scheduled quarterly meeting. Long appointed a judge, Bert Bates, a defense counsel, Jim Hash, and a prosecutor, Charlie Ponds. All are retired Special Forces non-commissioned officers with extensive combat and weapons experience. Ponds outlined the case against Taylor , emphasizing that the citizens of Knox County were going to be burdened with significant costs to again apprehend, and then prosecute and defend the would-be burglar.
“Proper choice of a larger caliber gun would have spared the citizens this financial burden,” Ponds said, “while removing one bad guy from the streets for good. He could have used a .45 or .38. The .22 just wasn’t big enough to get the job done. Hash disagreed. He said Taylor had done the right thing in choosing to arm himself with a 22. “If he’d used a .45 or something like that the round would have gone right through the perp, the wall, the neighbor’s wall and possibly injured some innocent child asleep in its bed. I believe the evidence shows that Smokey Taylor exercised excellent judgment in his choice of weapons. He clearly remains to this day an excellent weapons man.”
Hash then floated a theory as to why the bullet bounced off the perp’s forehead. “He was victimized by old ammunition,” he said, “just as he was in Korea and again in Vietnam , when his units were issued ammo left over from World War II.” Taylor said nothing in his own defense, choosing instead to allow his peers to debate the matter. The jury, consisting of all the members of the Chapter, discussed the merits of choosing a larger caliber weapon as well as the obvious benefits to society of permanently deleting the intruder so he would never again threaten any private citizen. The other side of the coin, that of accidentally causing injury to a completely innocent citizen if a more powerful gun had been used, also gained considerable support.
Following testimony from both sides, Judge Bates determined the charges should be dismissed. The decision was met with a round of applause. In fact, there was strong sentiment expressed that Taylor should receive an award for not only choosing wisely in picking up the 22, but for the accuracy of his aim under difficult and dangerous conditions. After the trial Taylor said the ammunition was indeed old and added the new information that the perp had soiled his pants as he crawled out the door. “I would have had an even worse mess to clean up if it had gone through his forehead,” Taylor said. “It was good for both of us that it didn’t.” Meanwhile, back in Knox County , the word is out: Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.
Tribune Editor Bill Fishburne is a member of the Larry Thorne Chapter XXXIII of the Special Forces Association. Hat tip Oswald Bastable’s Ranting.





aurora08 said
Great story, MK! Unfortunately it would have gone a lot differently if it had occurred here…or if the LEft had had their way. Glad to see the old guy still has some fire in him.
ar said
“A fishing gun”? I know they used to carry .303s on fishing boats to shoot sharks, but I’ve never heard of fishing guns.
Angie said
Good for him…btw I never heard of a fishng gun either..the main thing is that he had a gun and was not hesitant to use it to defend himself and family.
How did a homeless guy raise bail?
Willie said
When he says “fishing gun”, it doesn’t mean he actually fishes with the firearm. He probably carries it along to dispatch snakes, keep a big catfish from flopping in the boat, protect himself, etc.
sgsaur said
I keep a .22 in my tackle box for snake’s. Water mocs can be really nasty little critters when they’re PO’d.
deMontjoie said
Not to question Mr. Taylor’s actions (especially IVO the dismissal of charges and the inapplicability of double-jeopardy), but whatever happened to the fine old tradition of double-tapping?
BZ to SGT Taylor!
Rustmeister said
You carry a small caliber pistol for shooting snakes and the like while fishing.
We call them snake guns.
Texas Jack said
Fishing Gun: any firearm carried along on a fishing trip to take care of unwelcome critters. A .22 pistol is not real noisy and just right for snakes, but might be a touch light for turtles. For those who prefer a long gun, either a .22 or a small bore shotgun (410 or 20 Ga.) is the usual weapon.
ScottG said
A fishing gun is a little something extra that goes in the tackle box. Lots of good fishing places are in unsavory areas.
Gino said
A ‘fishing gun’ is for shooting water moccasins and other unpleasant creepy crawlies often encountered while fishing.
swampfox said
He just means that it’s the gun that he takes fishing. A lot of people take a handgun, of small caliber, while fishing.
wade said
Fishing guns are quite common when fishing for halibut. Once you get them to the boat, you want to shoot them before the start flopping and break your line. Here in Canada where we are plagued by ridiculous gun laws, most guys use a pump 12 gauge, though I have heard 9mm’s are popular among Alaskan halibut fishermen.
Wendy Weinbaum said
As a Jewess in the US, I recall that America wasn’t won with a registered gun! Let’s all put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!! And remember, criminals are stopped not by talk, but by FIREARMS.
Pete said
As an old 1st Cav Trooper, I hesitate to give advice to a Green Beret pro. Of course, that means I will go ahead and give the advice: Glaser Safety Slugs.
Available in a wide variety of calibers (.38, .44Spc, etc.), they offer the option of a highly devastating frangible round (slug has a plastic cap and is filled with birdshot) which will not go through more than one wall of sheet rock, but will dump the entire KE of the round into the target. Very unlikely to penetrate all the way through with a center-of-mass hit. Probably a bit less messy than a .357 or .45, since there will generally be no exit wound. I keep my “unexpected home visitors” .44 Spc. loaded with these.
fishgunner said
I use a Mark III Compertion Model, It works great for fish, turtle, big bullfrog & snake
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333 Marines !!! said
Hip Hip Hurray, Hip Hip Hurray !!!!!!!!!! Once again, a member of our “Greatest Generation” shows us all how to be true Americans. Stand up, Stand tall, Stand by your rights, but most of all Stand Defiantly.
MK said
Thanks for all the comments folks. I always to say to any who will listen, especially Americans, you are so lucky you’re allowed guns, never let them go folks, NEVER, if you give them over to the state or anyone, no matter what they might offer you in return, it’ll be the start of end from there. Draw the line and hold that line.
Ray said
The walking snakes that aim to prey on lone fishermen are the ones a “fishing gun” is for,mostly.Night fishing and fishing in remote areas can be risky.Once upon a time,2 multi-intoxicant soaked creeps thought that I’d be an easy mark one night at a huge reservoir.I actually had to explain to one of them that I rotated the cylinder past the first two shot loads AND that the next one up was a Silvertip that was gonna ruin his evening if he took one more step.
No shots fired even though I was between them and the water. I surprised myself at how well I could gather up 2 rods,a tackle box and a camp stool with one hand while I persuaded the miscreants to step aside with my well packed other hand and good command presence.
ar said
Thanks for the info, everyone. Here in NSW you can’t even fish without a licence let alone carry a gun. We just keep legislating ourselves deeper and deeper into the hole…
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blueseaglass said
Meanwhile on the streets of all towns in the USA crack whores and drug dealers run rampant…
The unbalanced nature of our country’s legal system (military included) makes me nauseous.
I just moved from DC to Virginia where I can no carry a handgun and I am leaning more towards it every day.
eddiebear said
This is the real meaning of “truth to power”
Bill chapple said
typical green beenie,underarmed and in the wrong place at the wrong time a MARINE would have answered with a twelve guage and 10 rounds at point blank range after butt stroking the P.O.S. oooorrrahhhh semper fi sarge
vapig said
To the Marine – Yes Dear, but think of the mess! I believe a Green Beret from WWII has shown us the way. To the new Virginian – Didn’t you know you’re not allowed to live here WITHOUT a gun, Dear?
Tim Roesch said
Typical marine-brings an artillery barrage to a bar fight. Typical Green Beanies-bring a courtroom to a any fight. Personally I would have let him come in and used bleach. Better living through chemistry. SGT, great shooting, keep the .22 use the new hypervelocity frangible .22 rounds. Makes a .22 think like a .44. Kinetic Energy baby!
Rev said
I am one of the LEFT and I think the man had the PERFECT RIGHT to shoot the intruder.
Maybe the intruder will LEARN from his stupidity and become a good citizen.. maybe even one of value to us as a society… we may never know. It is also true that maybe he will go on to hurt someone and SHOULD have died this time.
I for one can not tell the future, nor do I have the power to see into the soul of the intruder to know if we are better off.
ALL of that said… I will say again… as a PROUD LIBERAL (more in the tradition of our LIBERAL founding fathers) I believe in our rights to OWN guns and in certain circumstances such as the one above USE them with the possible deadly results.
PEACE